Monday, January 16, 2023

Women's position like that of others

Likewise these would suit others who wish for position : women, men, children, elderly, pets and other animals, robots and maybe even other beings. 


Quotations from my long text "Skills of Christmas gnomes" learntalents.blogspot.com :

See https://kauneusjaviisaus.blogspot.com/2023/01/womens-position-like-that-of-others.html 


Likewise these would suit others who wish for position : women, men, children, elderly, pets and other animals, robots and maybe even other beings. 


Quotations from my long text "Skills of Christmas gnomes" learntalents.blogspot.com :


Basics of position

W7.   Often one gets along and gets solid position when one respects the values of the area of life at hand and tries to learn it's skills in a good quality way and cultivate them well in ways that respect that area's values and motivation and what livibg in a society needs for the society to be good to live in, now and in the future. 

W8.   What people get position from and how they get treated, is from what they do from momentvto moment, which are the values followed in that, which level of skills in each thing done or thought of, and what is the way of being social, and is it fair, honest, responsible, etc. 

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Learning skills which give a higher position

W11.   "If you want a better position, the rule "Live and let others live!" F60. in the Christmas gnome text, followed all the time in everything, with commln sense and lots of wisdom of life, tends to give so lots of freedom as long as one follows the rule with wisdom. It also tends to give a much higher position to decide about things  since things usually run smoothly with such wisdom. 

If you need extra skills to gain position to influence things, try E11. Easy quick school for animals, M8. Like a hero of old times, and N97. Emperor's power. "


F60. Oh, how is gnome like life possible socially, how is it possible to get along and to have room for one's own life, for one's own likings? I guess that the answer is the traditional Finnish rule "Live and let others live!". It is essential, so I copy it here:

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Saturday, October 13, 2012

World's best problem solving method (Important to learn all over the world)

 The ruleis something like: One is allowed to be selfish in ways positive for happy life but not to disturb the lives of others - except fairly to prevent them from disturbing others unfairly.

I do not know how all-European this traditional Finnish speaking Finnish (saying/)behaviour rule referred by the non-literal words "Live and let others Live!" but it is surely worth copying! It gives a maximal amount of freedom of everyone, completely according to their own likings, at the same time as it gives perfect moral for purely selfish individuals concerned mainly about their own life but who have a holistic rational view of the world and of the
society's workings.
The rule "Live and let other Live!" means that you can yourself live as freely as you allow others to live in the society - that means the others who follow the rule "Live and let others Live!". If you to some extend disturb people who follow the saying, you own room to affect things and to live in is shrunk on that respect, preventing the harm and making you think that you might want more room and so be motivated to living in harmony. That means that evil is not allowed to affect lives (of anybody else than the evil one oneself) but nice moral things are allowed to affect fully and supported in order to get better life for all! But one does not need to accept some influence because someone else says it is nice, instead there is the need to be moral and the freedom tofollow one's own likings.
It is a good rule. Maybe You have it already! Please learn to use it for happy life and a prosperous society, if it is not so widely known...

About the rule in all social relationships, please read http://yksinaisille.blogspot.fi/2012/03/build-perfect-relationship.html

Observe that this rule is roughly "Room for happy life!" and is akin to justice and caring the world to such that it is good to live in happily. It is not saying that one should not kill anybody. It means that if fair play and the happiness in the society or in the wide world so demands, you are supposed to prevent evil ones (and utterly stupid ones) from harming others unfairly, also if it means war, killing or the like, but of course one must see the situation as a whole, the good and bad sides of each tactic and choose with wisdom.

There is this same rule without any exception in all relationships, including mother-child-relationships, dating (Try for example in competitors in love, their kids and other responsibilities), friendship, hate, not caring attitude etc. Largely other rules are not needed, except lots of common sense, healthy spirit and a good understanding and at least some good will toward all.

An important application of this rule are the relationships between countries and between groups which may compete fiercely. It is also a good rule to build the society upon.

It often happens with this rule that the problems disappear as if they had vanished to the thin air.
Typically some woman (a wise one) or some nice man says "Go and enjoy yourself. Do not be bothered by them. You do not need to disturb them if you go to some other place or to some other people." and so the person in conflict does so and finds so room for him/her to live his/her own life without conflict with the others.

The goal is something like "We live our lives and let them live theirs." But the other side of the rule is how to get it to apply, how to force it upon people who do not follow it. And that is if they break against justice disturbing the lives of others unfairly, their own room to live in is shrunk similarly and they are prevented from harming others unfairly. But where they live ok, they can fairly keep their space to live in. Typically in this the rest of the society caring about that people would follow the rule, is important. Also some wisdom of life makes this work better than too little understanding about quality of life, social relationships and the workings of the society.

If this rule isn't familiar to you and you don't know how to take it into use or even if you want to use it or not, please try it out in your mind: figure out what it is like in each situation and how following it would affect things. It is a very useful rule, somaybe you like it too, it is quite easy when you have first learned it in each type of situation.

If you in some occasion don't feel like yur feelings coming along in letting others have so much room and preferably happiness too, you have propably not applied the rule enough to yourself: so be more selfcentered, think about what your own life need in a situation like this and see if you can arrange freedom and happiness for both yourself and for others, for yourself you need to take care of it and for others just leave room for them and they themselves with their friends arrange for themselves without feeling it being a burden of some kind.

This rule works also if there are lots of murders http://healthilymoral.blogspot.fi/2016/10/live-and-let-others-live-also-if-there.html

In care professions, like for example medicine, it is important to follow good enough understanding, good enough moral and be honest about what is a lie, a habit or an unsure supposion. But with wider consequencies taken fally into account this rule applies there too: the patients and others cared for should be allowed to decide fully about their need for care and about the decisions in their care: that is their life, their own influence to the world and those in care professions should not mess with it, giving excuses for crimes. It is especially important to let those live freely who are moral and so carry the burden of keeping the world in a good state, for example some parts of the society.

This rule works well for example in the negotiations between different groups. You do not need always say aloud that things are according to this rule. It is enough if your suggestions are such that when other groups check them, they find that those are ok for them, so they can easily agree to support them, and likewise for your own groups too. But on the long run it is good for people to learn the rule, so that their own suggestions are all right for others too.

Following this rule in decisions, courses taken, judgements etc makes police and justice system and government also easy to agree about, but you do not need to refer to this rule, but more likely explain things in terms of law, needs, objective thoughts, common sense, experience, fair play, carrying responsibility, freedom, etc and then when the other person checks whether it is ok for him/her, it is according to this rule and so easy to agree about, and kind of makes it easier to think of these kinds of things if one has good enough understanding, wisdom wisdom of life, healthy spirit, good will and responsibility about the coming generations etc.




Horse running in an arch, a model of free life according to feelings, a horse knit picture

Animals and somehumans too learn this rule easily by comparing people (and animals) to the trees in a park: each one has one's branches sovereign, lives freely according to one's emotions so, but does not mess with the branches of others, isn't allowed to do so. But one can offer available things that people like, like for example a song in the radio, in a radio station which specializes to that type of music so that people can choose according to their likings whether they listent o it or not.





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E11.   20th of September 2020    Maybe a gnome too could learn this way:

"Easy quick school for animals, especially pets and birds

 Animals which associate closely with humans, especially pets, ofr example dogs, sometimes ask if there could be a school for animals too. I have written advices about learning common sense like objective thinking and about fitting into the society, so here is my version of a kind of school for animals:

1) Thinking: use a landscape like view that observes structures. Good practise for this is looking at familiar scenes and landscapes with trees and some life in them. Trees and nature make observation ability better and join the sense of sight topgether with the sense of atmospheres, which is also good for thinking. http://quickerlearning.blogspot.com

For teaching this to a dog that is interested in learning it, go outdoors to some peaceful enough place where there are trees but not overly amess. Do not strand face to face by your pet but instead side by sode so that it looks at the same landscape as you, and so you can look at it so that it sees it the same way and then you can walk to a bush, tree, street's side lawn etc like observed firstm, and that's it.

2) Fitting into the society: The advice "Live and let others live!" is good for this. Think of each person and each group sovereign as the trunk and branches of a tree in a park. It does not mess with the branches of other trees and those too leave it alone, to freely and happily live it's own life. Good will toward others is a good advice here. https://finnishskills.blogspot.com/2012/10/live-and-let-others-live.html

 Another piece of advice is for all to work for better life in a better living environment, like work, hobbies, friends, caring for the environment, making the society good to live in. https://finnishskills.blogspot.com/2013/04/rationally-grounded-moral.html

3) Wisdom of life and healthy ways of living you can partly learn from how tree branmches curve topward light and what is their atmosphere, the mood it seems to refer to and the kind of life, and partly from sport and healthy kind of life on all areas of life.

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There are also some other things that have often come to my mind when thinking of a school for animals, especially for pets and birds, maybe for mice too.

4) About teaching an animal to read there is a video about reading Finnish language at https://villakoirabanjo.blogspot.com/2020/01/opeta-elaimesi-lukemaan-nain.html , but for it one must first understand spoken language, which often goes by associating with humans and paying attention to the situations and tones of voice, and later by remembering also the atmospheres of the spoken language. Finnish language is written like it is pronouced, but there are some differencies between literature's language and the words of spoken language.

5) The square looks of houses etc are a consequence of it being so easy to place two or more parts next to each other tightly and so that one can choose from nay options, what to place so. So one can build shelter from weathers and from dangers and use materials economically. Such houses also offer fiar chances for different types i´of individuals and a possibility for privacy. The square looks of houses are not good for intelligence and quality of life. For them it is good to look at trees outside the window. If life indoors feels tough, do not attach yourself to build things but instead only to the nature outside the window and to outdoors at large.


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M8.   1st of June 2022    I wonder could one be like a hero of old times but in these modern ages if one read kn part 2. the text About Kalevala B38., and in the beginning of this blog about how to learn talents and skills, and maybe the Easy quick school for animals E11., and if one would look at healthy natural ages old ways of living from the point of view of basic theoretical picture of the world like the sciences. 


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About kalevala

"I bought Kalevala as a book to myself and read some of the beginning. In the competition singing of Väinämöinen and Joukahainen I was surprised to notice that Joukahainen did not lack skills so much, but instead Väinämöinen sang him to be things like the glow of the nature, to the marks of great skill in the nature.
   "Hat from the head of the man he sang
   to be an erect front edge of a cloud;
   he sang mittens from his hands
   to be leaves on the cover of pond's water,
   from that misty blue
   to be clouds in the sky,
   from his belt a fascination of a new wife
   to be stars scattered in the sky."
So I was left to ponder, if I as a girl thought when reading kalevala that that is what can happen with great skill: one loses position, propably via losing communication connection when one no longer speaks the language of men with more soldier like style. That I would take care to not to fall myself into that pitfall. But at the same time I thought that I could nearly reach that high, to that style in achievements. Now I think that it is like having met a bird: with it's song it makes forests beautifult o wander in, green, there is much soldier like wisdom in it's voice. 
 But so, how did I think I could reach so high skill and quality of life, like the reddish glow of the grassas in a forest etc. One would have a healthy way fo living or a healthy touch of one's own which would cure the way of life healthy again, to ages old. In every thing one would see the parts of healthy way of life which are as an idea in it, and so the deed when sees alike as others' deeds would be healthy on one's own and on others too, and so one could continue with healthy psirit from that, each one, whole society, and partly the rest of the world lear from it. ( World is of love (a mechanical model) http://healthilymoral.blogspot.fi/2011/08/world-is-of-love.html ) ( http://finnishskills.blogspot.fi/2015/11/healthy-ways-of-living.html )
One would have skills of one's own, one would have found one's own roads in life, it would be good to be an individual, personality, like oneself and strong, enjoying being an individual. And so human relationships would be in a way clishee like and in a way with a healthy spirit: one would have the strenght to have an opinion, do meaningful things, carried by the values of the society, things with healthy psirit carried by the actions and values of the society which have healthy spirit which would have strenght and content to life.
And one could get strenght, skills and integrite with opinions from being soldier like: to defend something, to invest in healthy courses, copying fro little singin birds and fromother strong wild animal persons (http://wildharmony.blogspot.fi/ ). One would be healthily spoirty, doing things at the practical level, with a good understanding achieved via adfmiring the nature and feeling via beautiful values, caring for the world, approaching life with feelings, motivated to the sphere of life and missions of the traditional way of life, with feelings and with a good understanding, reaching parts of the forefigures in nature of their skill level every now and then. (In Finnish http://tunteetjatekemisentapa.blogspot.fi/2016/07/suurista-tunteista.html )


My old video: if you can imagine a skill livelily, you can learn it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAFN4gs35_A


https://talesfromforest.blogspot.com/



M9.   From my blog todreamjob.blogspot.com

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1. To a Dream Job (Like this you find your dream job and learn talents!)

To a Dream Job
 Written by Kaisa Hannele Tervola, Finland
Many of us have different strenghts than what your dream job would need. And the more we admire some professions, the higher demands we often set to ourselves to be allowed something so high. But our own strenghts reflect usually the dreams of our parents, to which we have already gotten introduced so much that we are thoroughly bored, and not what we feel that our own lives have been most lacking, what we most admire and which we would most enjoy our time, which we would most carefully take to our heart and take care of if it were our work. We cannot change to be copies of our parents, so better for us to travel to the unknown toward our own dreams!
Choosing a profession for oneself starts with finding the right way of living: what is your biggest dream, what would perfect life be like, what is the one and only right choise that is often so far that at most in sleeping dreams and tales we dream of it? Set your goals there, take the first steps to that direction with your full heart and with all your wisdom of life, and life is at once much more worth living. If you try with a full heart, that is a different things from somehow, with half a mind only, quickly on the way to something else, just somehow sloppily, just because of the looks and not the content, done. First the idea is to get experience of trhe area of life that you love. You do not need to be of professional level to start with, instead the main thing is to to via your own most loved roads get to know the things you love with your full heart, even if they were distant dreams. Via travelling your own roads you can use your capacity fully and learn as much as you ever can. When setting your goals according to your own wishes,according to those distant dreams, your deeds do not lack spirit: you are at once talented in something that you love. First you have a fascinating hobby, then you start to achieve things that fascinate you in it, set new goals that you love and work for them enthusiastically. This way you do not get flat and bored from memorizing books, instead you have your own style and music like fascinatuion in what you do, real power and own insight and well trainbed skills as  your support in your favourite job, which is like your deepest dreams and not set by the environment you happen to be in, your nonexistent starting leve of skills and your initial lack of talents. So there is nothing stopping you from starting in your favourite job, first maybe as a practising student and across time as a real professional in it!
On this road there helps the piice of advice about learning skills in things that you love:
How to learn all at the same time - drawing and painting"


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2. How to learn all at the same time - drawing and painting (Like this you learn all kinds of skills!)

Skills are often ways of looking at things: when one cancentrates in the right way to right things and notices enough the right structures/regularities (like for example colours with their tones and with what they get compared with), then skill is born from it already without really practising it - maybe in five minutes, maybe in 20, maybe from two day's relaxed hobby. But the difficulty is to find that right way of looking, being drown enough in it and to know what that skill really demands.

I have been making advices to others about skills that I can well. With the same principles I ought to be able to make advices for myself about skills that I want to learn. Just for fun I tried this theoretical view to the skill of painting: "What if one could learn it all at the same time?!" In principle one could... Except that some time would be needed for learning to conceive motorics of hands, learning how different colours of paints behave, etc things demanding experimenting. But the basic principle is always the same:


Drown in the experience so strongly that you notice clearly the different tones of the things that you want to learn, for example instead of noticing just red and green, you drown into enjoying the colours and their tones with their impressions so sensitively and experiencing them with your whoke being that you notice even small differencies in tones as clearly as those of colours earlier. The strenght of the experience brings to you vocabulary for that: this is a cold atmosphere, that is a warm social one, what the different things are like, ever better and better noticing such things. Like this you learn to take into account those things. Then just do so and your skill is ok in what comes to that side of things.

All the taime when you do so, when you concentrate to a new side of things, all the time keep your old skills along, for you to get at the same time both your old skills and the new ones. That does not mean keeping to a stuck view or stuck ways, istead it means relaxation in a lively non flat way, reaching a new inspiration, not from dreams but from the fascination of life at the level of experience, which is born of relaxation and of new beginnings, of letting go of old. You can keep your ability to notice the things that your skill consists of, even if you would lose it's formal side totally. Each time you learn something new and the spirit of your skill gets more profound, at the same time as your old skills stay fully.

So what would this mean for me as a beginner without painting skills? One should learn to no5tice forms and colours with their tones, atmospheres, states of mind, harmony, balance, rhythms and their encounters, breaks, what gets compared to what, common spirit and it's complex variations,... And to draw and paint them on paper. So one should drown in the world of colours, enjoy forms and structures, give room for feelings and feel how they affect the way one observes things, get more sensitive to observe how atmosphere connects to what one looks at and how, what associations it brings to one's mind, what role things have in the world and how it brings the spirit to things. One should also learn how to move these to paper: I notice a form/structure, I lift it to be a subject of my concentration and my hand draws a line that reflects the structure in my mind. Superfluous lines are important to drop away in this: not writing, not a language of geometrical forms, instead just a feeling and drownig into it draw a line. Likewise the other sides: a clear image in one's mind and drowning into it drawn/painted shape.

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I noticed that I learned painting well and quickly when in addition to this piece of advice I bladdred through a good quality study book of aquarel painting and was left watching some especially fascinating picture in it, trying toconceive how it was so fine, how it had been painted and why it had so good spirit, how the whole so successfull. Then I left the book open at that place for a couple of days or a few and looked at the fascination of the picture every time I was interested ins uch. Then I painted just something that fascinated me (does not need to be the same subject) partly based on my old skills and learning according tyo the previous advice in skill learning new fascinating things and partly based on what I learned by copying from the picture. Like this after painting a few pictures I knew also new skills quite well.
As far as I know also this piece of advice suits also learning other skills. A good quality study book offers model of a skilled forefigure, who can with her/his style, way of doing and by the things picked to the book teach professionals kills of that area of life. Like this one learns the practices of the profession, it's skills, it's view to the world and even values and it's typical spirit of doing."



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N97.   My first name Kaisa has the association "keisari"= emperor. What i have learned from it, is that an emperor's power isn't for a certain person or position but instead for a certain type of deeds, so in practice for many different kinds of persons and for them per deed and not continually. The person should be responsible, wise and skilled enough, work fairly for the good of the country and of the world. 

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Maybe it is good to know that women's magazines are often written by men. 

I do not know whether you seek this kind of position or not, but this is the only type of position that i understand about, or so it seems when i try to tjink about position. If this isn't what you are looking for, you will have to seek elsewhere. I thought even this is a lot! 


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X57.   8th of February 2023   The quotations at https://learntalents.blogspot.com/2023/01/womens-position-like-that-of-others.html about gaining position show that one can rise toward one's full potential and each one has highest position just where one's personal strenghts and values are. So each person has room for personal interests and personal division of skills, and the whole is decided by the coooeration of many people with different strenghts. So each one has a natural place according to one's full potential, if one just develops the needed skills and respects highly the needed values. 

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